Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.

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#26 Post by franko » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:56 pm

Well to tell the truth is STILL not finished,not much left but its a never ending project. ALthough I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Should at least have it running soon maybe by mid Feb. Will keep you all posted .

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#27 Post by rezdiver » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:37 am

LOL,
the light at the end of the tunnel ususally dims down once you put the motor and tranny under the tunnel and close the hood to block the light.
any more pictures?

franko wrote: ALthough I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

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#28 Post by franko » Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:50 am

haha right right, na not really any progress pics. But I have a few other ones I could post up I guess.

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#29 Post by rezdiver » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:20 pm

Franko,
you done yet? I am. first big drive after the swap was today in the Iltis. I was going to drop by and have a look at the progress, are you going to be up to the shop anytime soon?

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#30 Post by franko » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:01 pm

So did you ever make it by the shop? Its still a work in progress,but Its coming along for sure little bit at a time. Chester also is building a house so that takes up some of his time for sure.
How did yours work out,do you like the 1.9 VW swap? Oh and if you still have those wheel spacer I may still take them.
Cheers

Doc Tari

#31 Post by Doc Tari » Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:13 pm

Franko,
Looks like it's coming along great. Look forward to seeing it perform on the trail.

Reza, how about a few pictures of your conversion?

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#32 Post by rezdiver » Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:23 pm

Franko,

Unfortunately the spacers sold a few days ago.

I never made it to the shop yet, not enough time in a day, gonna go soon, i have not chatted with Chester for a while.

the swap is good so far, lost a bit of top speed but i still have not changed any gearing, i think i will change out 4th gear if i can find a matching old tranny from an old audi 4000 or a porsche 924.

she has way more power than before and i dont need to go fast anyways. she is happy between 90 and 95 on the highway.

working on veggie oil conversion as we speak.

will post up some pics on a new thread so i dont clog up Frankos build.

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#33 Post by franko » Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:19 am

TEASER VID.



So before I can even get it moving I run into this issue.

The trans will not go into gear; the t-case is in gear and I can feel the trans grab very slightly when shifted into forward or reverse but it's not fully engaging. There is ATF in it. I don't think it's a transmission shifter or linkage adjustment issue because I can slowly move it through the gears and it doesn't ever seem to fully engage. It does not engage enough to ever move the truck; only enough to barely bump it ahead or back. This could be a dirty trans filter causing the pump to not get enough oil or maybe something else. It is not likely electrical.

Anything that you guys can think of that we have not done or forgotten to do. Hoping that rezdiver has my answer and can swing over and get it moving lol.

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#34 Post by e.prevost94 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:37 pm

Any progress lately?

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Transmission issue

#35 Post by romayama » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:59 am

Could not figure out the PM reply, sorry.

I'm having exactly the same transmission issue with my conversion to Isuzu 4JB1T. It started howling at idle and ended up not catching the gear at all.
http://design-engine.ca/vehicles/Diesel/
http://design-engine.ca/vehicles/Diesel/Rebuild/
Also working on dual tank WVO conversion. Can share the drawings for custom under body tanks (2 x 25L).

I also bought a used tranny and currently contemplating a swap.

I, however, suspect one thing that could have caused the trouble: Drive plate to Torque convertor gap - is yours same as it use to be with gas guzzler? If incorrect, this may have destroyed torque converter.

I bought an ATF pressure gauge off ebay for $46 and going to run a pressure line test prior to doing a transmission swap. There is also a tap for Torque converter pressure check, i just have to figure out which one of two.

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#36 Post by HeadDamage » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:16 pm

Sounds like a torque converter problem or some other line pressure issue.

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Tranny

#37 Post by romayama » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:37 pm

Sounds like it. Thanks.
I'll conduct the series of pressure tests and will post my findings soon.

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Re: Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.

#38 Post by franko » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:48 am

Just a short teaser vid,she runs drives and shifts smooth.. More updates to come.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/franko_6962/th_IMG_1462.jpg

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Re: Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.

#39 Post by franko » Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:09 am

Here are some updates,have been driving the truck for a couple months.
And so far the biggest down side is the stupid water LEAKS,I hate land rovers for that lol.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1603.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1693.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1694.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1695.jpg

Oh and its time to change out that dam coupling that landrover thoughtt was such a good idea.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1697.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1699.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1698.jpg

Also was having a hard time starting it in the morning,so i traced it down to a few dead glow plugs.
They are pretty cheap for the om617 so i just decided to replace all 5 of them well i was doing it.
Old glow plugs.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... hoto-3.jpg
And new plugs.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... hoto-1.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... hoto-2.jpg
This one against the firewall was a pain to remove,but i got it out.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... /photo.jpg

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Re: Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.

#40 Post by franko » Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:15 am

Oh and do any of you,have any tips on to how to deal with this mess? :evil:
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1596.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1595.jpg

Does anyone locally stock the boot floor replacing kit?

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Re: Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.

#41 Post by e.prevost94 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:16 pm

None that I know of. That rot is nothing compared to my disco. The twat that owned it before me thought it would be best to repair the rot with ROOFING TAR! Sometimes you gotta wonder. I just ended up paching it up with sheet metal.

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Re: Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.

#42 Post by kentworks » Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:05 pm

franko... I see that you dumped the A/C compressor because it interfered with the steering box... lucky for you, you live in the great snowy north. But for those of us in in the sunny south, what are your thoughts on keeping the A/C intact?

Is there a spot on the opposite side of the engine from the steering box where it could be mounted... over where the LR compressor was? Like adjacent to the alternator, below where your air intake filter currently sits? Could you somehow keep the original LR compressor in its same general location, or possibly mount the Mercedes compressor over there? Is there any room to the left of the alternator, slightly above (10:00 position) or slightly below (7:00 position), or even directly to the left (9:00 position)?

Or perhaps could you move the Mercedes compressor out and up from it's original location, so that if sits just above the steering box, and to the right of the power steering pump.

Of course you'd have to custom fab brackets, but I'm wondering if there is even enough space to fit it in there?

kentworks

Re: Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.

#43 Post by kentworks » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:46 pm

Franco.... an update please. Was it worth it in the end? Does it drive well? Is the power of the OM617 matched well to the weight of the truck?

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Re: Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.

#44 Post by franko » Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:26 am

Hey, yeah sure you could mount the AC on there just fine lots of room. We didn't bother with it,don't really need it up here.
And yes drives great power is not bad for what it is. Could use a rebuilt torque converter to get a better power band.
But so far its not to shabby.
I'm selling it as we speak ,just don't have time to tinker on it anymore with the new born and all.

Cheers

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