Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.
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franko
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rezdiver
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franko
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So did you ever make it by the shop? Its still a work in progress,but Its coming along for sure little bit at a time. Chester also is building a house so that takes up some of his time for sure.
How did yours work out,do you like the 1.9 VW swap? Oh and if you still have those wheel spacer I may still take them.
Cheers
How did yours work out,do you like the 1.9 VW swap? Oh and if you still have those wheel spacer I may still take them.
Cheers
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Doc Tari
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rezdiver
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Franko,
Unfortunately the spacers sold a few days ago.
I never made it to the shop yet, not enough time in a day, gonna go soon, i have not chatted with Chester for a while.
the swap is good so far, lost a bit of top speed but i still have not changed any gearing, i think i will change out 4th gear if i can find a matching old tranny from an old audi 4000 or a porsche 924.
she has way more power than before and i dont need to go fast anyways. she is happy between 90 and 95 on the highway.
working on veggie oil conversion as we speak.
will post up some pics on a new thread so i dont clog up Frankos build.
Unfortunately the spacers sold a few days ago.
I never made it to the shop yet, not enough time in a day, gonna go soon, i have not chatted with Chester for a while.
the swap is good so far, lost a bit of top speed but i still have not changed any gearing, i think i will change out 4th gear if i can find a matching old tranny from an old audi 4000 or a porsche 924.
she has way more power than before and i dont need to go fast anyways. she is happy between 90 and 95 on the highway.
working on veggie oil conversion as we speak.
will post up some pics on a new thread so i dont clog up Frankos build.
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franko
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TEASER VID.
So before I can even get it moving I run into this issue.
The trans will not go into gear; the t-case is in gear and I can feel the trans grab very slightly when shifted into forward or reverse but it's not fully engaging. There is ATF in it. I don't think it's a transmission shifter or linkage adjustment issue because I can slowly move it through the gears and it doesn't ever seem to fully engage. It does not engage enough to ever move the truck; only enough to barely bump it ahead or back. This could be a dirty trans filter causing the pump to not get enough oil or maybe something else. It is not likely electrical.
Anything that you guys can think of that we have not done or forgotten to do. Hoping that rezdiver has my answer and can swing over and get it moving lol.
So before I can even get it moving I run into this issue.
The trans will not go into gear; the t-case is in gear and I can feel the trans grab very slightly when shifted into forward or reverse but it's not fully engaging. There is ATF in it. I don't think it's a transmission shifter or linkage adjustment issue because I can slowly move it through the gears and it doesn't ever seem to fully engage. It does not engage enough to ever move the truck; only enough to barely bump it ahead or back. This could be a dirty trans filter causing the pump to not get enough oil or maybe something else. It is not likely electrical.
Anything that you guys can think of that we have not done or forgotten to do. Hoping that rezdiver has my answer and can swing over and get it moving lol.
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romayama
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Transmission issue
Could not figure out the PM reply, sorry.
I'm having exactly the same transmission issue with my conversion to Isuzu 4JB1T. It started howling at idle and ended up not catching the gear at all.
http://design-engine.ca/vehicles/Diesel/
http://design-engine.ca/vehicles/Diesel/Rebuild/
Also working on dual tank WVO conversion. Can share the drawings for custom under body tanks (2 x 25L).
I also bought a used tranny and currently contemplating a swap.
I, however, suspect one thing that could have caused the trouble: Drive plate to Torque convertor gap - is yours same as it use to be with gas guzzler? If incorrect, this may have destroyed torque converter.
I bought an ATF pressure gauge off ebay for $46 and going to run a pressure line test prior to doing a transmission swap. There is also a tap for Torque converter pressure check, i just have to figure out which one of two.
I'm having exactly the same transmission issue with my conversion to Isuzu 4JB1T. It started howling at idle and ended up not catching the gear at all.
http://design-engine.ca/vehicles/Diesel/
http://design-engine.ca/vehicles/Diesel/Rebuild/
Also working on dual tank WVO conversion. Can share the drawings for custom under body tanks (2 x 25L).
I also bought a used tranny and currently contemplating a swap.
I, however, suspect one thing that could have caused the trouble: Drive plate to Torque convertor gap - is yours same as it use to be with gas guzzler? If incorrect, this may have destroyed torque converter.
I bought an ATF pressure gauge off ebay for $46 and going to run a pressure line test prior to doing a transmission swap. There is also a tap for Torque converter pressure check, i just have to figure out which one of two.
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HeadDamage
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franko
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Re: Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.
Just a short teaser vid,she runs drives and shifts smooth.. More updates to come.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/franko_6962/th_IMG_1462.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/franko_6962/th_IMG_1462.jpg
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franko
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Re: Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.
Here are some updates,have been driving the truck for a couple months.
And so far the biggest down side is the stupid water LEAKS,I hate land rovers for that lol.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1603.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1693.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1694.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1695.jpg
Oh and its time to change out that dam coupling that landrover thoughtt was such a good idea.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1697.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1699.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1698.jpg
Also was having a hard time starting it in the morning,so i traced it down to a few dead glow plugs.
They are pretty cheap for the om617 so i just decided to replace all 5 of them well i was doing it.
Old glow plugs.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... hoto-3.jpg
And new plugs.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... hoto-1.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... hoto-2.jpg
This one against the firewall was a pain to remove,but i got it out.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... /photo.jpg
And so far the biggest down side is the stupid water LEAKS,I hate land rovers for that lol.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1603.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1693.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1694.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1695.jpg
Oh and its time to change out that dam coupling that landrover thoughtt was such a good idea.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1697.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1699.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1698.jpg
Also was having a hard time starting it in the morning,so i traced it down to a few dead glow plugs.
They are pretty cheap for the om617 so i just decided to replace all 5 of them well i was doing it.
Old glow plugs.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... hoto-3.jpg
And new plugs.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... hoto-1.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... hoto-2.jpg
This one against the firewall was a pain to remove,but i got it out.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... /photo.jpg
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franko
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Re: Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.
Oh and do any of you,have any tips on to how to deal with this mess? :evil:
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1596.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1595.jpg
Does anyone locally stock the boot floor replacing kit?
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1596.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87 ... G_1595.jpg
Does anyone locally stock the boot floor replacing kit?
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e.prevost94
Re: Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.
None that I know of. That rot is nothing compared to my disco. The twat that owned it before me thought it would be best to repair the rot with ROOFING TAR! Sometimes you gotta wonder. I just ended up paching it up with sheet metal.
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kentworks
Re: Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.
franko... I see that you dumped the A/C compressor because it interfered with the steering box... lucky for you, you live in the great snowy north. But for those of us in in the sunny south, what are your thoughts on keeping the A/C intact?
Is there a spot on the opposite side of the engine from the steering box where it could be mounted... over where the LR compressor was? Like adjacent to the alternator, below where your air intake filter currently sits? Could you somehow keep the original LR compressor in its same general location, or possibly mount the Mercedes compressor over there? Is there any room to the left of the alternator, slightly above (10:00 position) or slightly below (7:00 position), or even directly to the left (9:00 position)?
Or perhaps could you move the Mercedes compressor out and up from it's original location, so that if sits just above the steering box, and to the right of the power steering pump.
Of course you'd have to custom fab brackets, but I'm wondering if there is even enough space to fit it in there?
Is there a spot on the opposite side of the engine from the steering box where it could be mounted... over where the LR compressor was? Like adjacent to the alternator, below where your air intake filter currently sits? Could you somehow keep the original LR compressor in its same general location, or possibly mount the Mercedes compressor over there? Is there any room to the left of the alternator, slightly above (10:00 position) or slightly below (7:00 position), or even directly to the left (9:00 position)?
Or perhaps could you move the Mercedes compressor out and up from it's original location, so that if sits just above the steering box, and to the right of the power steering pump.
Of course you'd have to custom fab brackets, but I'm wondering if there is even enough space to fit it in there?
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kentworks
Re: Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.
Franco.... an update please. Was it worth it in the end? Does it drive well? Is the power of the OM617 matched well to the weight of the truck?
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franko
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Re: Diesel swap OM617 into a Disco.
Hey, yeah sure you could mount the AC on there just fine lots of room. We didn't bother with it,don't really need it up here.
And yes drives great power is not bad for what it is. Could use a rebuilt torque converter to get a better power band.
But so far its not to shabby.
I'm selling it as we speak ,just don't have time to tinker on it anymore with the new born and all.
Cheers
And yes drives great power is not bad for what it is. Could use a rebuilt torque converter to get a better power band.
But so far its not to shabby.
I'm selling it as we speak ,just don't have time to tinker on it anymore with the new born and all.
Cheers
