Steep hill climb

[ANDYD]

Land Rover Hill climb....

http://www.biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=17508

[rezdiver]

anyone know which media player this is using, i cannot see the video, i have had this issue with quite a few posts of videos. just gives me a blank square with a tiny little colored square at the top left corner...

[nakedbarra]

WOW :wav:

[sailourboy]

Reza
Try Adobe Flash Player 10
Cheers
Ted

[rezdiver]

Thanks Ted, got it.

Wow that was awsome, I wonder what tires they are using, looks like a pretty sticky tire for them not to slide much when coming to a full stop on the way down.

[PaulC]

probably stock tire, not too many options as far as tires go. What you are seeing are very aggressive TC and Diff lock programs working away.

[Doc Tari]

In addition to the very aggressive TC and Diff lock programs that Paul points out, you're also seeing a bit of "artistic license". Not saying that it's not steep, but the camera angle makes this look far worse than it is...

[Bermuda110]

Want to try it in a 110.........



No TC No Diff Lock = Dirty Drawers

Says its a 43-45 degrees incline..............

[Doc Tari]

The 110 driver is lucky he didn't land on his lid. I believe the inclination angle of the slope could be as much as 45 deg but that's not what the video shows. Pause it from ~ 10 sec and beyond and it looks more like 60 deg. This is were the creative camera work comes in. Nothing is going to hold on at that point, not even LR's TC or diff lock.

[HeadDamage]

Good God... that 110 clip scared me just watching it :shock:

[PaulC]

There maybe some extra tilt (likely more the product of armature camera op standing on a steep slope) but not nearly enough to make it anything but a very very difficult slope that the stock T5 platform will eat up all day long while many other “built trucks” flirt with disaster. :shock:

[Doc Tari]

Any vehicle that can climb a 45 deg slope is pretty impressive and the new offerings from Rover seem to fit the bill. However, I'd be shocked if they (or any other make) will climb 60 degrees. Anyone have a T5 platform they would like to volunteer?

It would also be interesting to see if a "low tech" locker or LSD equipped truck could do the same.

[sailourboy]

Hi Pete
In my 101 manual it says that a standard 101 can climb "dry concrete" at greater than 60% . That is w/o lockers
Not that I would want to try it knowing how crapping the brakes are and there tendency to rollover.
Cheers
Ted

[Doc Tari]

Hi Ted,
60% is no problem for most anything with low range because 60% is 30 deg. 45 deg is 100% and 60 deg is more than 130%, quite a different story...

Regards,
Pete

[N Hamelin]

As Bermuda 110 mentioned, the poster of the 110 video calls it a 43-45 degree incline in his title:

"Land Rover Defender attempting Koos se Klim / Tsogwe at Moegatle [Just outside Brits in SA]. 43-45 degree incline."

Maybe they've actually measured it?

[PaulC]

T5 systems make easy work of this type of terrain not because it has a “locker” or 2, not because it has “Traction Control”....it is because these mechanical/electrical bits are entirely integrated. :idea:

Depending on what the driver selects; the system (& hardware) acts and reacts very differently.

For instance the “Locker/s” can provide infinitely variable lock, independently of each other. The locker (s) will back off when you turn the steering wheel... help keep you on line etc.

I could write a whole web site on the changing drive- train characteristics of the T5 and Terrain Response.....but suffice to say the abilities you see in videos like this are the product of this vehicles ability adjusting to the driver’s actions. :oops:

I could put almost anyone in one of these and drive up down very steep hills and side hills of 45 degrees all day as long & as they know the difference between right and left turn, brake and gas, stop and go I'll live to tell this tail. :)

[Doc Tari]

As I stated in a previous post, I have no doubt that the slope is 45 degrees (100%) and it's a pretty impressive demonstration. My point was that the videos of the RR and LR3 make it look much steeper (maybe 60 deg.), simply by "adjusting" the camera angle/perspective. If the slope was as steep as they make it look, I'd be very surprised to see the truck actually climb it.

[N Hamelin]

I get what you're saying now! :D And, I would completely agree. Particularly that 110 video angle makes the climb look less steep when shown from the rear than those first videos showed.