Now that i've gone through the cost of a whole new top end of my 2.5NA, and have a newer injection pump, I want to ensure I keep with the best fuel possible, and was concerned about the lubricity of new ULSD (ultra low sulfur diesel). It seems all diesel now sold at Canadian pumps, whether labelled as ULSD or not, is ULSD, as of 2010.
I work in radio communication at all the major refineries here in Edmonton; Esso, Shell, Suncor (PetroCan), and the Husky refinery in Lloyd.
Husky's DieselMax Product is the most appealing to me of the four, but I do know of a local pump with mixed BioDiesel (B5).
I've found a performance study of many major additives, and surprisingly, regular BioDiesel and OptiLube XPD Additive are at the top of the list. My past favorite for my old gasoline engines had been Lucas Upper Cylinder lubricant, which does quite poorly here
My plan at present is to use the Optilube XPD often with dino diesel, and to use the biodiesel mix when opportunity and temperature allow.
The study is found here:
http://www.jatonkam35s.com/DeuceTechnic ... e_test.pdf
diesel fuel additives
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ANDYD
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Re: diesel fuel additives
Very interesting reading, thank for posting the study results.
Where would you buy "2% REG SoyPower Biodiesel" in the Lower Mainland?
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Where would you buy "2% REG SoyPower Biodiesel" in the Lower Mainland?
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radio_05
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Re: diesel fuel additives
"REG" is only the name of the US producer of the particular brand of biodiesel used in the study.
I checked further here today, and the Flying J pumps, which were purported to have biodiesel mix in Edmonton; don't show this at the pumps.
It's obvious to me why we may not see biodiesel at many local pumps. The refining cost of diesel seems to be quite low, and the profit margins quite high, there doesn't seem to be much interest in Edmonton. I think you can find some BC biodiesel sources in an online search. I did visit my local supplier for Optilube XPD, and now have a bottle.
Another point to add, it seems the seals of some older land rover diesels injection pumps (like mine) may leak with biodiesel. The concentration shown in the study was quite low, and may not cause any problems, but I haven't tried.
I checked further here today, and the Flying J pumps, which were purported to have biodiesel mix in Edmonton; don't show this at the pumps.
It's obvious to me why we may not see biodiesel at many local pumps. The refining cost of diesel seems to be quite low, and the profit margins quite high, there doesn't seem to be much interest in Edmonton. I think you can find some BC biodiesel sources in an online search. I did visit my local supplier for Optilube XPD, and now have a bottle.
Another point to add, it seems the seals of some older land rover diesels injection pumps (like mine) may leak with biodiesel. The concentration shown in the study was quite low, and may not cause any problems, but I haven't tried.
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Re: diesel fuel additives
I know in greater Victoria and on the island you can get B10 at any if the Columbia fuel card locks.
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radio_05
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Re: diesel fuel additives
Online, i've found that some select fasgas and Petro-Canada pumps may have it. The Petro Can pumps should have a blue label identifying the biodiesel.
I suspect it may be easier to come across during the summer.
I think a new post is in order to track known local pumps.
You could 'roll your own', but I think few of us have time between work, home, and landrover repairs. I do note several biodiesel reactors orderable on ebay for home brewing.
I suspect it may be easier to come across during the summer.
I think a new post is in order to track known local pumps.
You could 'roll your own', but I think few of us have time between work, home, and landrover repairs. I do note several biodiesel reactors orderable on ebay for home brewing.
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Re: diesel fuel additives
In the Interior, every oil company loads from SunCore in Kamloops.
The Diesel that every oil company gets from SunCore is the same as its from the same main tank.
When trucks are loaded, they are badged in useing the buyers code number.
Each oil comp. has a "Load Number" so that when the fuel is being loaded, their own cocktail of additives are injected into the fuel as they load.
This is why Husky Diesel contains more "Bio" than others.
Kicker is that even though you are buying Diesel from Husky, it may not be Husky's blend.
Heres why.
Each fuel company has a allocation of liters that they can buy everyday.
The company can then sell as much of their allocation to any other company.
Eg: Esso can sell some of their allocation to independant carriers such as Scamp, West Can or Wheeler.
These carriers are contracted to carry for companys such as Husky, SuperSave, Super Store.
So...
Scamp loads Diesel useing Esso's badge number & therefore loads Esso spec fuel.
Scamp then delivers this Esso spec fuel to a Husky or SuperSave station.
The only company that actually sells thier fuel at thier specs all the time is Chevron as they only use their own trucks.
All "Summer" Diesel now contains "Bio-Diesel" as per Gov't regulations.
"Winter" Diesel does not contain "Bio" because of the problems with it readily attracting moisture.
I have seen new Furnace oil tanks rust out within 1 year because of the high amount of moisture (water) attracted by the "Bio".
Another problem with "Bio" is that the microbs in it attack the sludge built up in older tanks creating loose particles that plug up filters.
As for Diesel additives, not a bad idea to use to lubricate the fule pump.
Only problem is that no one knows whats in them.
The worst one I've seen is "Howes Conditioner"
If you leave a bottle of it out in the summer sun, it seperates into multiple levels.
So whats happens if the conditioner seperates into different levels in your storage tank?
When you go to fill up your truck, you'll get the lower level of seperated conditioner first & the rest as the level of your tank goes down.
The Diesel that every oil company gets from SunCore is the same as its from the same main tank.
When trucks are loaded, they are badged in useing the buyers code number.
Each oil comp. has a "Load Number" so that when the fuel is being loaded, their own cocktail of additives are injected into the fuel as they load.
This is why Husky Diesel contains more "Bio" than others.
Kicker is that even though you are buying Diesel from Husky, it may not be Husky's blend.
Heres why.
Each fuel company has a allocation of liters that they can buy everyday.
The company can then sell as much of their allocation to any other company.
Eg: Esso can sell some of their allocation to independant carriers such as Scamp, West Can or Wheeler.
These carriers are contracted to carry for companys such as Husky, SuperSave, Super Store.
So...
Scamp loads Diesel useing Esso's badge number & therefore loads Esso spec fuel.
Scamp then delivers this Esso spec fuel to a Husky or SuperSave station.
The only company that actually sells thier fuel at thier specs all the time is Chevron as they only use their own trucks.
All "Summer" Diesel now contains "Bio-Diesel" as per Gov't regulations.
"Winter" Diesel does not contain "Bio" because of the problems with it readily attracting moisture.
I have seen new Furnace oil tanks rust out within 1 year because of the high amount of moisture (water) attracted by the "Bio".
Another problem with "Bio" is that the microbs in it attack the sludge built up in older tanks creating loose particles that plug up filters.
As for Diesel additives, not a bad idea to use to lubricate the fule pump.
Only problem is that no one knows whats in them.
The worst one I've seen is "Howes Conditioner"
If you leave a bottle of it out in the summer sun, it seperates into multiple levels.
So whats happens if the conditioner seperates into different levels in your storage tank?
When you go to fill up your truck, you'll get the lower level of seperated conditioner first & the rest as the level of your tank goes down.

