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rebuilt engines ?

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:18 pm
by Duckman
Reconditioned land rover engine's for series and 300tdi would there be any interest. I've spent a lot of time building these back in the UK and am thinking about starting here in bc. Just putting some feelers out at the moment Seeing if it's possible and if there would be a call for them.
Will be working out prices and a source of core engine's but this is very early day for this project... let me know what you think! Thanks

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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:21 pm
by Kelster1055
Where were you 3 years ago? I spent a huge amount of time looking for someone to rebuild a 2.5 NA Diesel. I ended up going to a shop in Kelowna who took about 6 months and charged me double what they estimated, about $6k. There's a shop in Vernon that does a beautiful job on Bosch dist pumps, but in the end it would've been cheaper to buy new. I'd say go for it and do gearboxes as well if you can. I would support you.

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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:53 am
by terayon
Agreed! I just paid nearly $6k for a rebuild here on the coast. They did good work (so far) but I'd rather pay a specialist who knows their way around a Rover.

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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:24 am
by Duckman
Thanks for your help :-) I was thinking about doing other parts to but plan to start with just the 2.25/2.5 engine's so I could carry the parts without having to order them from the UK for each job Hopefully it will keep prices lower. Also looking at the series 1 engine but think that may need to be done as one offs. As parts are hard to find and $$$$

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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:52 am
by joshallen676
Definitely would be interested


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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:35 pm
by rayhyland
Would you be able to do 200tdi's? I understand the 200 is a pretty easy drop-in to a series, while a 300 needs a bit of work.


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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:36 am
by rainman101
I am interested in both series 1 and 2 engine rebuilds

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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:31 am
by BlkP38
Duckman,

Have you sourced a machine shop that you are comfortable with? Depending on your location, some of our members may have recommendations of shops that are familiar with older technology.

Eric.

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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:56 pm
by Bill E.
Hey Eric,
Think you've got the wrong end of the stick (or maybe it's me). Duckman is thinking of supplying rebuild services and is just putting feelers out to test the general level of interest locally.

To Duckman,
I think it's a great idea, we are in need of more competent and knowledgeable Land-Rover engine rebuilders that operate at fair prices. Where are you considering setting up shop?

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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:48 pm
by Duckman
Hi I am Arthur btw...
I will be based in sparwood bc or in this local area but as landy rover owners are spread across Canada i plan to create and ship them as needed.

On the point of 200 tdi it's very similar to the 300 tdi but in my opinion not as good. 300tdi will go into a series 2/3 without too much trouble. Also you can buy a conversation kit of the shelf for this. Which maybe a good import to stock.
But this is still early days and I am trying to use my old suppliers from UK. But it looks like you're interested :-)
any thoughts are welcome thanks for your support.

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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:17 pm
by rayhyland
Duckman wrote:Hi I am Arthur btw...

On the point of 200 tdi it's very similar to the 300 tdi but in my opinion not as good. 300tdi will go into a series 2/3 without too much trouble. Also you can buy a conversation kit of the shelf for this. .
I think for Series 1s the 200tdi is a much easier drop in. As I have mostly Series 1s, that drives my question. Would you do 200tdi engines if I asked for a batch? Have you done many in the past?


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rebuilt engines ?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:38 pm
by red90
Sparwood? You should be asking on the Alberta club forum. I think a good engine rebuild service would see use if the price and quality is better than what the local rebuilders have been giving.

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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:50 pm
by Kelster1055
Hey Duckman,
How much for a kit to drop a 2.5 NA Diesel into a Series IIA?

I have a Series III synchro gearbox to go behind it.

I also have an LT77 which what I'd really like to use but it's missing the top cover and stick assembly.

Thanks,
Kelly

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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:06 am
by Duckman
Hi Kelly
at this time you are probably best asking this company. Steve Parkers Ltd they were really useful.
and make a good kits to put most land rover engine's in to the series 2/3..
Hope this helps you with your project.
in the future I am hoping to be more useful...
currently trying to sort out a shipping and duty ect. To see if this will be a good business..
many thanks Arthur

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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:14 am
by Duckman
Hi Ray
if this idea gets off the ground that would be very feasible. It would just take a bit longer To source the engine's and get them here for the rebuild. How many would you need?
Many thanks Arthur

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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:40 am
by rayhyland
Duckman wrote:Hi Ray
if this idea gets off the ground that would be very feasible. It would just take a bit longer To source the engine's and get them here for the rebuild. How many would you need?
Many thanks Arthur
Possibly 2 or 3


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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:02 am
by BlkP38
Bill E. wrote:Hey Eric,
Think you've got the wrong end of the stick (or maybe it's me). Duckman is thinking of supplying rebuild services and is just putting feelers out to test the general level of interest locally.

To Duckman,
I think it's a great idea, we are in need of more competent and knowledgeable Land-Rover engine rebuilders that operate at fair prices. Where are you considering setting up shop?

Hi Bill,
When rebuilding an engine a machine shop is needed. (as you know).

So my question to Arthur was based on the assumption that he would be handing over the block and head to a shop. And as he is knowledgeable about these engines and their requirements he would be able to discuss with them exactly what to do rather than hand the whole engine over to them for refurbishment, sometimes with dodgy or incomplete replacement of parts.

Eric.

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:09 pm
by Bill E.
Clearly it was me who had the wrong end of the stick as usual. :roll:

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:39 pm
by rayhyland
I just sent an engine (1956 2.0l) into the machine shop today. Fortins in Chilliwack. He has a good reputation, mostly does racing engines but also does industrial and agricultural engines, so I will let you know how it goes. I will be using Cox and Turner components.
But honestly I'd much rather let someone who knows what they are doing shepherd the full process.


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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:28 pm
by Kelster1055
FYI... I think I spent about $6k with the shop in Kelowna which included a new crank and a complete rebuild of the fuel distributor pump which I think they subbed to Valley Fuel Injection in Vernon

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:14 pm
by Duckman
Hi all
so this idea definitely seems like a good one.
and it looks like people have been spending a good bit of time and money sorting out there rover engine's.
one more question would people prefer to keep there own blocks for originality (if original) or just have a "create motor" of the shelf? Or probably a bit of both.
Many thanks Arthur

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:12 pm
by Kelster1055
Personally, I don't care if I keep my same block. I'm not doing a Concours d'Elégance restoration. I'm more of a Resto-Mod kinda guy. Keep it looking original but modernize where it makes sense.

My 2bits.

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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:55 am
by rayhyland
Most of my trucks don't have engines.


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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:15 am
by Kelster1055
rayhyland wrote:Most of my trucks don't have engines.

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I think this is 'the need' that can be filled by Duckman :alien: