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Exhaust requirements?
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:08 pm
by HeadDamage
I might be moving to Vancouver this fall from Calgary. My 1987 RR is running great but there are no cats under it anymore, would this be a problem with aircare?
If I ever finish it I have a 90 with a 1987 RR engine and trans, what would be required for it with aircare?
How about diesels, no testing on those is there?
Thanks.
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:50 pm
by DaveB
Yes it will, so long as you live in Vancouver or the lower valley. I believe the threshold is Hope to the East and Squamish to the North.
I notice Aart Vanderstar has some used cats and such in his supplies. Check with him for your parts. IK Trek & Traction. 604-888-2813
Diesels get tested as well, but not always the same test as the petrol vehicles.
Dave
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:36 pm
by HeadDamage
Where can I find the regulations on this so that I can read up on it?
Thanks.
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:40 am
by DaveB
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:03 am
by HeadDamage
The 1987 RR was never sold in Canada as new, would they know that it should have had Catalitic converters on it?
Does the diesel 90 that I'm building with a 1987 RR engine have to have cats.
I have one set of used cats that I could fit to one of these trucks but I suspect that they will just hurt the running if the vehical so I would rather not install them.
Thanks for the help so far.
Emission inspection procedure
40.05 (1) Every owner of a motor vehicle presented to an inspection centre for an emission inspection must
(a) produce the vehicle registration documents, which registration must accurately identify the vehicle to the satisfaction of an inspector,
(b) submit the vehicle to a visual inspection to determine if the vehicle can safely proceed to the test for exhaust emissions,
(c) submit the vehicle to an inspection of emission control devices to determine if
(i) the vehicle is equipped with emission control devices of the same standard to which it was manufactured,
(ii) there is evidence of tampering with any emission control device, and
(iii) the emission control devices are operative, and
(d) pay the fee for emission inspection prescribed in B.C. Reg. 334/91, the Motor Vehicle Fees Regulation.
(2) Subject to the approval of the Greater Vancouver Transportation Authority, subsection (1) (c) (ii) and (iii) does not apply in respect of an emission control device
(a) that is no longer manufactured, or
(b) for which repair parts, including original equipment, after market and used parts, are no longer available.
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:11 am
by DaveB
Actually in practice its quite common on odd and rare vehicles, such as your 87 range rover to select one that is a close model, such as an 88 or 89, so I think a set of cats would help, even if it was only temporary.
I had a failure a few years back because the tester selected a vehicle coded LNDR for my truck, which was actually an early Cruiser. Land Rover is LNDRVR or something such.
The testers also make a pretty thorough inspection of your registration and VIN plate, so make sure all your papers are in order.
In my experience, some of the older testers are actually car enthusiasts, so if you get them talking about your unique ride, they are usually much easier to get along with or reason with if you think they haven't got the right info for your vehicle. The younger staff seem to me to be more by the book and less knowledgable overall. Of course, this is only my opinion of the test centre in my area.
Dave
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:34 pm
by Bill E.
I know it's true that they can and sometimes do check on the intallation of cats, but in my experience they have only ever checked for holes in the system in the last few years. I know this because my old 87 Jeep did not come with cats and did not require them until late 88 but aircare's info book showed that cats were required on jeeps from 87. Nevertheless I was only ever even asked about why there was no cat once in about 1990. Anyway the point to my story is that the emissions numbers are likely to be what kills you on the test rather than the lack of cats. Dave is right about Aart having a bit of experience jamming grey market RR's through the test but I know from watching him tune them that it is pretty tough to get them through without cats.
Bill
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:39 pm
by HeadDamage
Talked to my local muffers shop today and they said that they can install a single cat after the pipes join for $350. Not so bad but I'll wait for now and see if the move goes as scheduled.