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TDI engine fitting
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:16 am
by dan
Hi again everyone,
my engine and transfer case/gearbox came to me all bolted together. Can I just take out my old combo and fit the whole engine/gearbox combo in one move, or do I need to separate the transfer case/gearbox from the engine?
Thanks
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:13 pm
by red90
What engine is going out and what is going in? what vehicle did the engine and gearbox come from? What year and model vehicle is it going into?
re tdi
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:37 pm
by dan
Hi, it's a 200tdi from a defender( year unknown). It has an lt77 and an lt230. It is going into my exmod 110 2.5n/a. Cheers.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:47 am
by red90
Yes, it will go right in.
However, both boxes have different ratios than what you have at the moment and you need to decide what you want.
Your existing transfer case will have 1.6:1 high range and the new one will be 1.4:1. You definitely want the 1.4:1.
Your existing gearbox "should" have a lower 1st and 2nd gear, which are nice. Check the serial number. If it starts "51A", you have the lower gearing.
BUT, the 200TDI box has a higher 5th gear, which is nice....... I'd probably stick with the 200TDI boxes as the gearing will be nicer.
http://members.shaw.ca/red90/gears.html
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:52 pm
by Bill E.
I with Red90 on this. I am running a 200tdi with the 1.4 transfer gearing and an R380 gearbox. Very usable configuration and still enough torque to spin 33" rubber. Happy cruising at 110 km/h and ability accelerate and pass up to 125 km/h. Speed above 125 is still fraught with wind noise and vibration as you approach the wall.
:spinning:
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:55 pm
by dan
I'd like to keep the military gear box for the lower first and second. However, It makes an awful noise in reverse and pops out of that gear too. I'd like have it rebuilt .. eventually.
I need to ask another question. I am about to fit the engine to the truck. The 200tdi has the gear box and transfer case still bolted to it. Do I need to separate the transfer box/gear box from the engine, or can the whole assembly ( lt77& lt230 still bolted to the engine) be installed as one unit?
Thanks for the help.
200tdi
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:26 pm
by Glenn D.
Mine went in easy OFF the transmission. but I seem to remember seeing someone (on the web or in a magazine) put it in all at once.
I would recommend not on the transmission. When your in there you can check the clutch, throwout bearing etc. Its also easier to handle depending on your lift.
Perhaps others know better.
Glenn
The Whole Mess
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:15 am
by JD
Dan,
It would be very worth seperating the engine from the gear boxes to inspect the clutch, throwout bearing and particularly the clutch fork. Clutch forks are well known to fracture and punch through at the ball pivot in the bell housing. The forks are extremely weak and the metal thin from the stamping process. Check it before installation. Otherwise you could have a rather ugly job ahead of you. Then you can reassemble and put in as one piece. Mine came out that way but with the whole front disassembled.
Rgds
JD
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:50 am
by dan
Hi guys,
thanks alot. I will separate the engine from the tranny. It is definitely a good idea.