Sunrise Lake Status....FINALLY making some progress!
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:28 pm
The following is the string of correspondence I've had with the individual who is now responsible for Sunrise Lake within the Ministry of Tourism/Sports/Arts. This is FYI.
Steve
Thanks for the information, the only thing that may need to be covered
off is a plan covering emergency Contact information such as Search and
Rescue info, local fire department numbers, escapes routes, where can a
helicopter land if needed et. This could be shared with local emergency
services et. The rafting companies carried a one page document that
covered off all of these with them when they were out and about. This
won't prevent the agreement just something to consider. I'll start work
on the agreement tomorrow , hopefully have something for you to sign
early next week!
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Dillen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thu, July 20, 2006 2:47 PM
To: Peters, Mike TSA:EX
Subject: Re: Four Wheel Drive Association of BC -- Sunrise Lake
1. Our offical club name/address is:
Four Wheel Drive Association of British Columbia PO Box 284 Surrey, BC
V3T 4W8
2. I am not sure that I understand the Operating Plan. Is this with
respect to Sunrise Lake, or in relation to our overall association
objectives?
-For Sunrise Lake, our plan is to maintain the site in a manner which
makes the site available for any members of the general public to use in
a safe and enjoyable manner. This includes (but is not limited to) the
removal of garbage and repair and general maintenance of site
facilities. Our plan is to attend the site as an organization
approximately every month, but not less than once every 3 months to
perform these activities.
As an organization, or plans/objectives are:
-To uphold the established Four Wheeler's Code of Ethics -To promote
recreational activities that involve the off pavement use of four wheel
drive vehicles, encourage multiple land use and allow access to the
back-country -To promote responsible attitudes toward the use of public
and private lands -To protect our natural resources and the heritage of
our land through conservation practices so people may enjoy them for
generations to come -To encourage land management agencies to develop
more areas and trails for multiple uses and to deter land closures -To
participate in and support civic activities that will benefit the
community, and to enhance the public image of recreational four wheeling
and it's enthusiasts -To promote cooperation and friendship among four
wheel drive clubs and individual four wheel drive owners in the province
of British Columbia -To Protect the rights of an individual by providing
support for the united voice of responsible four wheelers -To maintain a
uniform set of safety rules and regulations -To disseminate information,
including pending legislation that may be detrimental to the interests
of four wheel drive owners -To inform and educate our members and the
public in wise and sensible use of four wheel drive vehicles
3. I am not aware of any exceptional management considerations for the
Sunrise Lake site. From an organization management structure, our Board
of Directors has appointed me as the single point of contact related to
our association's activities for this site -- and I believe our
president sent a letter to that effect.
4. Operational Covenants/Search and Rescue requirements, etc. Our code
of ethics is documented as:
-I will remain on established and designated roads and trails. I will
obey gate closures and regulatory or trail-use signs. I will leave gates
as I find them -I will respect and protect the environment and the land,
both public and private. I realize that future use depends on my
responsible actions -I will obey all traffic laws and regulations -I
will not vandalize. I will restore or repair damaged trails, signs, camp
facilities, water bars or drains on trails in a responsible manner -I
will not litter. I will set an example to other backcountry users by
carrying out more than I carry in -I will maintain the safety of my
vehicle and equipment. I will carry recovery gear, an emergency repair
kit, basic first aid supplies, survival food and equipment. I will keep
firearms in a safe and secure place -I realize that my equipment,
ability, the terrain, weather, and the traffic on the trail should
determine my destination objective and travel speed -I will observe
fish, game and trail rules -I will act responsibly to prevent forest
fires -I will always stop and offer assistance to a fellow four wheeler
-When encountering others, I will be friendly and courteous
We have an association policy/flyer that reinforces these policies (our
"Wheeling Wisely" brochure) which I distribute to members of the
cleanup/maintenance runs. I will be happy to provide you with a copy of
this brochure when we meet, and a PDF version is attached, below. We do
not endorse the creation of ANY new trails without appropriate levels of
approval, which includes adherence to the policies of the various
ministries responsible for the areas we are using.
From an emergency preparedness standpoint, we have determined that
reliable (voice) cellular coverage is available from the 7km-10km of the
Harrison West FSR, and that limited text message capability is available
from the staging area at the bottom of the Sunrise Lake Road. Trail
Leaders communicate this information to participants during the driver's
meeting at the start of each scheduled maintenance run. The expectation
is that in the event of a medical emergency there is a pre-determined
plan in place to obtain any necessary assistance. Trip Plans are always
provided to members of the organization not included on the run, with
"late arrival" times clearly identified.
From a fire-prevention/preparedness standpoint, we are ensuring that
any fire ban/control measures specified by the appropriate organizations
(generally the Ministry of Forestry, through the Chilliwack Forest
District) are adhered to by our groups.
Please let me know what kind of information you're looking for and I'll
pull it together and send to you!
Thanks!
Steve Dillen
Peters, Mike TSA:EX wrote:
> > Steve
> > In order to complete the agreement I'll need a couple of things such
as
> > -Your official club name and address
> > -Has your club completed any type of operating plan?
> > -Are there any exceptional management considerations
(Operational
> > Covenants) such as search and rescue requirements. This will include
> > that no new trails be constructed without First Nation consultation
> > et.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Dillen [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wed, July 5, 2006 4:25 PM
> > To: Peters, Mike TSA:EX
> > Subject: Re: Four Wheel Drive Association of BC -- Sunrise Lake
> >
> > No problem -- I fully understand that delays happen. To be honest,
> > I've been completely swamped with work and attribute a good 2 months
> > of delay to that! Let me know what you need from me as you find out!
> >
> > Perhaps we'll see you on Saturday.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Peters, Mike TSA:EX wrote:
> >
>> >> Steve
>> >> Thanks for your patience Steve I know that its hard to wait for
>> >>
> > answers.
> >
>> >> I'm learning this new job as I go along and sometimes things that
>> >> should be quite simple turn into major projects. As soon as I have
>> >> some more information around the issue of an agreement I'll let you
>> >> know. One of the issues that we are having to deal with is the issue
>> >> around First Nations notification, I'm hoping to have this issue
>> >> addressed shortly and then I think we can proceed. Thanks for the
>> >> Saturday invite I'll see if I'm able to make it!
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Steve Dillen [mailto:[email protected]]
>> >> Sent: Wed, July 5, 2006 12:53 PM
>> >> To: Peters, Mike TSA:EX
>> >> Subject: FW: Four Wheel Drive Association of BC -- Sunrise Lake
>> >>
>> >> I am hosting the Four Wheel Drive Association's monthly run to
>> >> Sunrise
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> Lake this Saturday (July 8). We meet at the Sasquatch Inn at 9:30
>> >> and
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> depart from there at 10:00. This month I expect our volunteer team
>> >> to
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> perform general garbage collection/cleanup of the site and to
>> >> retrieve
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> a fire-ring that had been thrown into the lake over the winter. If I
>> >> can provide you with any information about site conditions (including
>> >> pictures/etc.) or if you are interested in joining us, please let me
>> >> know.
>> >>
>> >> Also, I am awaiting your direction on what steps I need to take to
>> >> finalize a term agreement for support of the site. Please let me
>> >> know
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> if I can answer any questions.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Steve Dillen
>> >> Four Wheel Drive Association of British Columbia Sunrise Lake Project
>> >> Manager
>> >>
>> >> -------- Original Message --------
>> >> Subject: [Fwd: FW: Four Wheel Drive Association of BC -- Sunrise
>> >> Lake]
>> >> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:17:11 -0700
>> >> From: Steve Dillen <sdillen>
>> >> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> >> To: [email protected]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Mike --
>> >>
>> >> I am the appointed project manager for the Four Wheel Drive
>> >> Association of British Columbia, responsible for our association's
>> >> activities related to maintenance and cleanup of the Sunrise Lake
>> >>
> > recreation area.
> >
>> >> In the past, our association has been in agreement with the Ministry
>> >> of Forests in this capacity. In recent years we did not renew our
>> >> agreement due to a variety of reasons, however in October of 2005 the
>> >> association membership directed our board of directors to renew our
>> >> efforts in adopting this campsite.
>> >>
>> >> In that regard, I accepted the position of organizing our membership
>> >> to perform periodic scheduled maintenance and cleanup of the
campsite.
>> >> Since October, we have hosted a monthly trail run to the site (held
>> >> on
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> the second Saturday of each month) and have had extremely positive
>> >> participation/response from our membership. In our March Annual
>> >> General Meeting, the membership of our organization directed the
>> >> board
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> of directors to pursue a renewed long term agreement/relationship for
>> >> the maintenance of this site.
>> >>
>> >> Late last year, I began discussing our objectives with Brian Radke.
>> >> At that time, we discussed the following upgrades/improvements to the
>> >>
> > site.
> >
>> >> 1. Garbage receptacles. While we believe the site (and all back
>> >> country areas) must retain a "pack it in-pack it out" policy, our
>> >> experience over the last 9 months is that there has been a
>> >> significant
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> amount of garbage left at the site. We believe that garbage cans
>> >> (perhaps bear proof) will reduce cleanup effort and will improve the
>> >> overall site condition.
>> >>
>> >> 2. Picnic tables. We last placed picnic tables at the site many
>> >>
> > years
> >
>> >> ago (perhaps 5). Since that time, many of the tables have degraded
>> >> due to weather exposure as well as use (and a fair amount of
>> >>
> > vandalism).
> >
>> >> 3. Fire rings. Approximately 5 years ago, the association
installed
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> new steel fire rings (set in concrete). Years of neglect as well as
>> >> vandalism has rendered a few of these rings unusable (and in fact, we
>> >> recently found that one has been removed and thrown into the lake --
>> >> which we intend to retrieve in our July run.
>> >>
>> >> 4. Signs. The Sunrise Lake recreation site is a fabulous campsite
>> >>
Steve
Thanks for the information, the only thing that may need to be covered
off is a plan covering emergency Contact information such as Search and
Rescue info, local fire department numbers, escapes routes, where can a
helicopter land if needed et. This could be shared with local emergency
services et. The rafting companies carried a one page document that
covered off all of these with them when they were out and about. This
won't prevent the agreement just something to consider. I'll start work
on the agreement tomorrow , hopefully have something for you to sign
early next week!
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Dillen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thu, July 20, 2006 2:47 PM
To: Peters, Mike TSA:EX
Subject: Re: Four Wheel Drive Association of BC -- Sunrise Lake
1. Our offical club name/address is:
Four Wheel Drive Association of British Columbia PO Box 284 Surrey, BC
V3T 4W8
2. I am not sure that I understand the Operating Plan. Is this with
respect to Sunrise Lake, or in relation to our overall association
objectives?
-For Sunrise Lake, our plan is to maintain the site in a manner which
makes the site available for any members of the general public to use in
a safe and enjoyable manner. This includes (but is not limited to) the
removal of garbage and repair and general maintenance of site
facilities. Our plan is to attend the site as an organization
approximately every month, but not less than once every 3 months to
perform these activities.
As an organization, or plans/objectives are:
-To uphold the established Four Wheeler's Code of Ethics -To promote
recreational activities that involve the off pavement use of four wheel
drive vehicles, encourage multiple land use and allow access to the
back-country -To promote responsible attitudes toward the use of public
and private lands -To protect our natural resources and the heritage of
our land through conservation practices so people may enjoy them for
generations to come -To encourage land management agencies to develop
more areas and trails for multiple uses and to deter land closures -To
participate in and support civic activities that will benefit the
community, and to enhance the public image of recreational four wheeling
and it's enthusiasts -To promote cooperation and friendship among four
wheel drive clubs and individual four wheel drive owners in the province
of British Columbia -To Protect the rights of an individual by providing
support for the united voice of responsible four wheelers -To maintain a
uniform set of safety rules and regulations -To disseminate information,
including pending legislation that may be detrimental to the interests
of four wheel drive owners -To inform and educate our members and the
public in wise and sensible use of four wheel drive vehicles
3. I am not aware of any exceptional management considerations for the
Sunrise Lake site. From an organization management structure, our Board
of Directors has appointed me as the single point of contact related to
our association's activities for this site -- and I believe our
president sent a letter to that effect.
4. Operational Covenants/Search and Rescue requirements, etc. Our code
of ethics is documented as:
-I will remain on established and designated roads and trails. I will
obey gate closures and regulatory or trail-use signs. I will leave gates
as I find them -I will respect and protect the environment and the land,
both public and private. I realize that future use depends on my
responsible actions -I will obey all traffic laws and regulations -I
will not vandalize. I will restore or repair damaged trails, signs, camp
facilities, water bars or drains on trails in a responsible manner -I
will not litter. I will set an example to other backcountry users by
carrying out more than I carry in -I will maintain the safety of my
vehicle and equipment. I will carry recovery gear, an emergency repair
kit, basic first aid supplies, survival food and equipment. I will keep
firearms in a safe and secure place -I realize that my equipment,
ability, the terrain, weather, and the traffic on the trail should
determine my destination objective and travel speed -I will observe
fish, game and trail rules -I will act responsibly to prevent forest
fires -I will always stop and offer assistance to a fellow four wheeler
-When encountering others, I will be friendly and courteous
We have an association policy/flyer that reinforces these policies (our
"Wheeling Wisely" brochure) which I distribute to members of the
cleanup/maintenance runs. I will be happy to provide you with a copy of
this brochure when we meet, and a PDF version is attached, below. We do
not endorse the creation of ANY new trails without appropriate levels of
approval, which includes adherence to the policies of the various
ministries responsible for the areas we are using.
From an emergency preparedness standpoint, we have determined that
reliable (voice) cellular coverage is available from the 7km-10km of the
Harrison West FSR, and that limited text message capability is available
from the staging area at the bottom of the Sunrise Lake Road. Trail
Leaders communicate this information to participants during the driver's
meeting at the start of each scheduled maintenance run. The expectation
is that in the event of a medical emergency there is a pre-determined
plan in place to obtain any necessary assistance. Trip Plans are always
provided to members of the organization not included on the run, with
"late arrival" times clearly identified.
From a fire-prevention/preparedness standpoint, we are ensuring that
any fire ban/control measures specified by the appropriate organizations
(generally the Ministry of Forestry, through the Chilliwack Forest
District) are adhered to by our groups.
Please let me know what kind of information you're looking for and I'll
pull it together and send to you!
Thanks!
Steve Dillen
Peters, Mike TSA:EX wrote:
> > Steve
> > In order to complete the agreement I'll need a couple of things such
as
> > -Your official club name and address
> > -Has your club completed any type of operating plan?
> > -Are there any exceptional management considerations
(Operational
> > Covenants) such as search and rescue requirements. This will include
> > that no new trails be constructed without First Nation consultation
> > et.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Dillen [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wed, July 5, 2006 4:25 PM
> > To: Peters, Mike TSA:EX
> > Subject: Re: Four Wheel Drive Association of BC -- Sunrise Lake
> >
> > No problem -- I fully understand that delays happen. To be honest,
> > I've been completely swamped with work and attribute a good 2 months
> > of delay to that! Let me know what you need from me as you find out!
> >
> > Perhaps we'll see you on Saturday.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Peters, Mike TSA:EX wrote:
> >
>> >> Steve
>> >> Thanks for your patience Steve I know that its hard to wait for
>> >>
> > answers.
> >
>> >> I'm learning this new job as I go along and sometimes things that
>> >> should be quite simple turn into major projects. As soon as I have
>> >> some more information around the issue of an agreement I'll let you
>> >> know. One of the issues that we are having to deal with is the issue
>> >> around First Nations notification, I'm hoping to have this issue
>> >> addressed shortly and then I think we can proceed. Thanks for the
>> >> Saturday invite I'll see if I'm able to make it!
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Steve Dillen [mailto:[email protected]]
>> >> Sent: Wed, July 5, 2006 12:53 PM
>> >> To: Peters, Mike TSA:EX
>> >> Subject: FW: Four Wheel Drive Association of BC -- Sunrise Lake
>> >>
>> >> I am hosting the Four Wheel Drive Association's monthly run to
>> >> Sunrise
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> Lake this Saturday (July 8). We meet at the Sasquatch Inn at 9:30
>> >> and
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> depart from there at 10:00. This month I expect our volunteer team
>> >> to
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> perform general garbage collection/cleanup of the site and to
>> >> retrieve
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> a fire-ring that had been thrown into the lake over the winter. If I
>> >> can provide you with any information about site conditions (including
>> >> pictures/etc.) or if you are interested in joining us, please let me
>> >> know.
>> >>
>> >> Also, I am awaiting your direction on what steps I need to take to
>> >> finalize a term agreement for support of the site. Please let me
>> >> know
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> if I can answer any questions.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Steve Dillen
>> >> Four Wheel Drive Association of British Columbia Sunrise Lake Project
>> >> Manager
>> >>
>> >> -------- Original Message --------
>> >> Subject: [Fwd: FW: Four Wheel Drive Association of BC -- Sunrise
>> >> Lake]
>> >> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:17:11 -0700
>> >> From: Steve Dillen <sdillen>
>> >> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> >> To: [email protected]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Mike --
>> >>
>> >> I am the appointed project manager for the Four Wheel Drive
>> >> Association of British Columbia, responsible for our association's
>> >> activities related to maintenance and cleanup of the Sunrise Lake
>> >>
> > recreation area.
> >
>> >> In the past, our association has been in agreement with the Ministry
>> >> of Forests in this capacity. In recent years we did not renew our
>> >> agreement due to a variety of reasons, however in October of 2005 the
>> >> association membership directed our board of directors to renew our
>> >> efforts in adopting this campsite.
>> >>
>> >> In that regard, I accepted the position of organizing our membership
>> >> to perform periodic scheduled maintenance and cleanup of the
campsite.
>> >> Since October, we have hosted a monthly trail run to the site (held
>> >> on
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> the second Saturday of each month) and have had extremely positive
>> >> participation/response from our membership. In our March Annual
>> >> General Meeting, the membership of our organization directed the
>> >> board
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> of directors to pursue a renewed long term agreement/relationship for
>> >> the maintenance of this site.
>> >>
>> >> Late last year, I began discussing our objectives with Brian Radke.
>> >> At that time, we discussed the following upgrades/improvements to the
>> >>
> > site.
> >
>> >> 1. Garbage receptacles. While we believe the site (and all back
>> >> country areas) must retain a "pack it in-pack it out" policy, our
>> >> experience over the last 9 months is that there has been a
>> >> significant
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> amount of garbage left at the site. We believe that garbage cans
>> >> (perhaps bear proof) will reduce cleanup effort and will improve the
>> >> overall site condition.
>> >>
>> >> 2. Picnic tables. We last placed picnic tables at the site many
>> >>
> > years
> >
>> >> ago (perhaps 5). Since that time, many of the tables have degraded
>> >> due to weather exposure as well as use (and a fair amount of
>> >>
> > vandalism).
> >
>> >> 3. Fire rings. Approximately 5 years ago, the association
installed
>> >>
> >
> >
>> >> new steel fire rings (set in concrete). Years of neglect as well as
>> >> vandalism has rendered a few of these rings unusable (and in fact, we
>> >> recently found that one has been removed and thrown into the lake --
>> >> which we intend to retrieve in our July run.
>> >>
>> >> 4. Signs. The Sunrise Lake recreation site is a fabulous campsite
>> >>