The Rover-Landers of BC

October is our last clean up run of Whipsaw this year. It will be combined with a run through the Ashnola traverse in memory of our friend Jim McEachern. The plan is to meet in Keremeos on Friday afternoon and depart at 4:00 to run the Ashnola traverse in reverse. We will camp on Friday evening at one of the recreation sites along Ashnola Road, and complete this run on Saturday morning at Copper Creek, where we'll rejoin Highway 3.

On Saturday morning, we'll meet up with anyone that couldn't join us on Friday and go on to the Highway 3 Whipsaw entrance, a short distance away. We'll spend Saturday afternoon running Whipsaw to Wells Lake, where we'll set up camp and do some trail maintenance. As a thank you to those that come to the season's last clean up, the Rover-Landers will sponser a BBQ on Saturday evening at Wells. We'll finish Whipsaw with the run from Wells Lake to Coalmont on Sunday morning.

We expect it be a great run and look forward to seeing you there. If you plan to attend, please post up or contact me so we can get a head count and arrange the meeting at Copper Creek. For more info please contact me at: [email protected]

Pete L. U1300L 1 person
Andy D. RRC 2 people
Shawn D. LR109 1 person
Dave F. LR109 1 person
dfritter Jeep 1 person
Dave V. LR88LW 2 people
Kris M. D110 1 person
Alec K. U1200 1 person
Bill E. D90 1 person
Dave & Pamela Disco2 2 people
Rick M. LR109 1 person
John RRC 1 person
Craig M. Disco2 1 person
Paul W. RRC 1 person
Roger C. Toyo PU 1 person
Ryan U. D110 1 person
Brian & Aaron Toyo PU 2 people
John C. LR3 2 people
Randy Hay Vehicle? 2 people
Don M. D110 2 people
Andrew Disco1 1 person

This is going to be a great event. O'Doul myself and Mr. Rudd are going for sure. I urge anyone who's in for a fun challenge to come. Keep in mind this is high country, weather conditions could vary from hot to snow.

I have the new Starter installed .....

Count me in .....

I'm bringing two extra blankets and my wooly slippers! :roll:

Andy

I'll be there! Maybe I can convince the "boy" to come out this time. He has nice small hands that we could use to turn those tools in tight places...lol.

Should be nice and muddy...make sure and bring your wellies...and we should wash our trucks after wards as we don't want to look like that D90 in the Ministry posters :lol:

Hopefully I can get my lights sorted out...have a new indicator stalk coming in that should solve the problem...but if not, nothing that a bit of duct tape won't solve.

Cheers,

Dave & "Stewie"

I'll be there. But beware, if I can't get the new clutch in on time, I'll be aboard a Jeep!

Jeeps are good too, I've got brake issues on my 110 and won't be able to deal with them before this run so I'll be taking my Mog...

Well..... Tallyho; I'm going to give it a go. My only experience of 4x4'ing is in England where I drove for 35minutes, played for an hour or two then hit the pub to round out the day... Not so in the colonys methinks. I've hiked and camped, canoe'd and camped and boated and camped in Canada so the camping bit is not worrying me. It's the pointy ground and my summary lack of experience/skill/courage/etc that is making me a tad nervous. Anyway; in for a penny..... I'll be there DV.[/img]

David,
It's great to hear you plan on joining us. Whipsaw has a few challenging spots but nothing you can't handle with a bit of help if needed. Going with a group like the Rover-Landers is the best way to increase your experience while eliminating the risk.

A couple of questions for planning purposes: Will you meet the group on Friday afternoon or Saturday morning? What model LR do you drive? How many people will be with you?

Thanks,
Pete

Hi Pete,
I'm in for this one, Ashnola and Whipsaw both, just me.

By the way Pete, David V. is our man with the lightweight "Hermoine". He was with us on the Port Douglas run remember.

Bill

Heyo, I'm going to try and make it to Keremeos for Friday afternoon, but it'll depend on how class goes. Also, I will not be getting the clutch in on time (or a new spring to replace the collapsed parabolic, more importantly), so I'll be the guy in the fire engine red Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon.

Oh, also, I've got a couple jerrys on the back of the 88 that I fill up before I go anywhere just because it's a gas pig... but how much gas will I be needing for this trip, if I fill 'er up in Keremeos, do I need to strap a jerry or two in the back of the Jeep?

Thanks Bill. After Dave PM'd me and mentioned the lightweight, I figured it out...

P

Unforeseen circumstances notwithstanding I plan to attend. Jeromy McEachern will be riding along. Phil and Deb are also planning on coming as far as I know.

Pete,
Count me in for two people; my son Eric has accepted my invitation to join us. That will be two people in the Lightweighht that will require guidance and direction over the pointy bits...
David

Sounds like a good group is going! :) 3 of us from the NW Overland Society have been having side discussions with Dave Blair and Pete for a while. We'll be coming up to join you guys as well. Looking forward to a good trip.

Craig - DII
Paul - RRC
Roger - Nicely equipped Toyota Pickup

Craig

John, thanks for the heads up regarding Phil and Deb.
David V., you're down for 2 and don't sweat the pointy bits, there will be plenty of willing help close by. Membership has it's privileges...

Hi all,
I thought I'd post additional detail from Dave Blair for the meeting locations that should be very helpful if you have a GPS unit:

Friday 4 PM Keremeos: 49.207024N -119.818076W, junction at centre of town.

Turn off the highway here: 49.204727N -119.880857W and follow Ashnola Road southwest for approximately 30 KM.

Friday night camp site at the Buckhorn Recreation site/campground on the Ashnola River: 49.146769N -120.160800W

For those that will be meeting up with us on Saturday, the Highway 3 Copper Creek turnoff: 49.188972N -120.561381W

Highway 3 Whipsaw turnoff: 49.368717N -120.576873W

Wells Lake: 49.370048N -120.887222W

Thanks Dave!

It looks like there may be several groups departing for Ashnola/Whipsaw from Vancouver: Friday noonish, Friday evening, and Saturday morning. If you're looking to get hooked up with one of the groups, post up...

For those equipped with two-way radios, we'll be using 146.460 on VHF and channel 4 on CB.

Sorry for the endless posts, just trying to get info out there as it leaks out of my brain...

Hi Pete,

I think I'll try for the first group. That is if I can get there in time from the North Shore.

When you say "noonish" is that 12 or 1?

Cheers,

Dave_F

Hi Pete,
I had a question from a member about the rendezvous time on Saturday morning at the Whipsaw turnoff? It may already have been posted but I seem to have missed it.

As far as Friday night goes I am heading straight for Buckhorn so don't expect me in Keremeos. Let me know if you need me to bring anything.

Bill

P.S. I'll be on VHF 146.460

I haven't a clue what Bill was talking about but he reminded me that someone was going to post GPS co-ordinates for the Friday and Saturday meet ups... Is that forthcoming? It came up at the last Rover Landers meeting last week. Dave Blair; was that you?

Where the 'ell is Buckhorn; Bill?

Hi David,

Scroll up a few posts and you'll see the coordinates. Buckhorn is the name of the Recreation Site on Friday night.

cheers, Dave

Jeez David, stay with the tour :roll:

Realistically, I won't be making it to Keremeos by 4; it's just not feasible. But I hope to meet up with whomever will be at Buckhorn Friday night!

For any that hasn't gone back to the first post and read Pete's updates, you won't need to bring food for Saturday night. The Whipsaw Committee is kindly putting on a BBQ for all attendees on Saturday night.

Bring along your own beverages, though, please.

cheers, Dave

The plan:
Friday - Meet in Keremeos @ 4:00 where Dave Blair will lead the group to the Buckhorn Recreation campsite. If you want to do the Ashnola traverse but can't be there at 4:00, no big deal but you'll need to get to Buckhorn on your own.

Saturday - Complete the Ashnola traverse on Saturday morning and hopefully arrive at Copper Creek by ~ noon. Depart Copper Creek around 1:00 to head up Whipsaw. The Saturday meeting times are approximate because they depend on when the traverse is completed. It will be very helpfulf to know who is planning to meet the group at Copper Creek so we can be sure not to miss anyone that wants to travel with others.

If you can't be at Copper Creek by 1:00 on Saturday, no problem, let us know if you need someone to meet you or make your own way up Whipsaw, dinner isn't until dusk...

If you're doing the Ashnola traverse, it might be a good idea to fuel up in Princeton, on your way to Keremeos. This way, you're good for the tranverse and Whipsaw, and can refuel in Princeton after we exit Whipsaw.

With regard to convoys for the trip out of Vancouver, I'm not going to even attempt coordinating this. I'm only suggesting that if you're looking to hook up with others, you may want to post your intentions.

Clear as mud?

PS: Bill, is the member with the rendezvous question already on the dinner list or do I need to make an addition?

Regards,
Pete

Hi Pete,

Is there still going to be a midday departure from Keromeos?

Cheers,

Dave_F

Hi Pete,
Randy Hay is the one inquiring about Saturday but I have no idea if he is firm about coming.

Midday departure from Keremeos? There was never a midday departure from Keremeos only one at 4:00. Are you getting this confused with a midday departure from Vancouver on Friday?

Regards,
Pete

aahhhh yes, you are correct...in my anticipation regarding the run, I saw this incorrectly.

Oops...see you at 4:00pm in Keromeos.

Dave_F

Hey Guys so we are coming up for sure but we thought we would be hitting the same entrance as last time but it seems to be in reverse, I have the GPS but some additional instructions would be great. We can't make the 4 pm run but would probably be there at 7 is it worth trying to catch up or heading to the next meeting spot assuming that is at Well Lake?? Is that part of the run OK solo at dusk, even though I am usually on my own anyway, lol... Hope to see you all soon and lets hope the rain tapers off in Vancouver leaving us high and dry. ATB John

John,

We won't be anywhere near the Whipsaw on Friday night. If you are planning on coming up Friday, drive past Princeton to Keremeos. About 4 KM before Keremeos there is a junction with a road to the south, the Ashnola River Road. Turn here. You will shortly go over the bridge. Friday night's camp spot is easy to find... it is 30 KM down this road on the left hand side. We'll try and have a campfire going to ensure latecomers can spot us. This is a high-quality Forest Service Road with no challenges along the way, except perhaps a deer or two. This is the Buckhorn Recreation site.

On Saturday morning we'll start with the off-roading, first doing the Placer-Ashnola Traverse (in reverse) followed by the Whipsaw from Highway 3 south of Princeton.

Unless you want to wait until noonish Saturday to meet up with us at highway 3, you should try and make it to Buckhorn on Friday night.

cheers, Dave

Hi guys,

My Son, Leo, and I are planning on attending, depending on the success of some top secret vehicle upgrades. :lol:

Current plan is to leave Norh Vancouver between 1pm and 4pm and head straight to the Buckhorn Rec site, stopping for dinner along the way. If anyone would like to join us on the convoy, let me know.

We'll bring our own vegitarian dinner for Saturday.

See you there.

Thanks,
Don

Don,
Glad to hear you'll make it. There's no need to bring your own vegitarian meal, our 5 star chef has already anticipated this and has you covered.

Regards,
Pete

Mmmm, Rutabaga stew!

Thanks Dave for the instructions and it sounds easy enough, we'll probably be pulling in around 8 or so, we'll see you there.
All the best,
John

i hope to get on the road from SOUTH SURREY before lunch. a so wave as "YOU BLOW BYE ME". all you speedsters.I am not sure if you know about one of the best kept secrets, in KEREMOUS,. But i will let you in on it. thee vegetable stand SANDERSONS. has the best take out INDIAN lunches ever. the owner is a chef from here in surrey and vancouver. A and it is super, i never miss it. . all the best, see you all soon. rick.mx

Hey guys I'm thinking of coming out my Disco Is almost done can I meet up with any one at noon on Friday for the drive up to Keremous ....

Cheers
Andrew

Andrew,
You say you're "thinking" about coming... Does this mean I should put you down on the BBQ list? If so, will you be alone or have others with you?

Thanks,
Pete

Just found my GPS so yep Im In, just me and my 2 year old female Shepard Sadie.
Is there anyone leaving from the down town area that I can hook up with and do the drive Friday noon or sooner????

Cheers
Andrew

Hi Guys,
There is a small group meeting at Tim Hortons, Whatcom road exit of h-way 1 at 11am Friday morning. We will be doing slower but steady rate (good for any series trucks!) with a 30min stop in Princeton to stretch legs and refuel.

Please post if you intend on meeting us there so we know to look out for you.
cheers,
Andy

Hey Andy I will be there at 11ish
Cheers
Andrew

Well, not that anyone's keeping track, but it looks like I will be desperately trying to make the Keremeos 4pm departure...my other party bailed out, leaving me with the capacity to leave directly from UBC after class! Sadly, class ends at 12:50, so I'll be boogying along the highway to try and catch up to y'all en route.

Hi Andrew,
Great, we will look out for you. Channel 4 on CB if you have one.

D fritter, no worries, I'm sure you will catch up with us along the way or for sure when we stop for a break in Princeton.

cheers,
Andy

Sadly, that's looking pretty unlikely. My Spanish midterm was bumped up from Wednesday to Monday, and realistically, I don't trust myself to get enough studying in while on the trail. So, I'm going to extremely lame and do the last minute bail-out. If there's any way I can make it up to those that planned all this, just lemme know... I feel terrible having to cancel knowing how much work goes into an event like this. Beer peace offering?

Hope you guys have fun, stay safe, and don't break parts.

Hey no worries, thanks for letting us know.

Get your head down and study!
See you on the next one....


cheers,
Andy

Hi Guys,

It looks like I may have to meet up with you on Saturday due to work comittments today.

If I don't show up at Buckhorn tonight or during the wee hours, don't wait for me in the morning.

If all goes well hope to meet the group at copper creek between Noon and 1PM.

THanks,
Don

Hi guys,

There seems to be lots of comments on this thread but I can't seem to find at what time we are meeting on Saturday.

If anyone knows please respond...

Thanks!

Ryan

Hi Ryan,
The meeting times and locations are in the postings. In any case, if you're coming on Saturday to Whipsaw only, the meeting point is the Copper Creek turn out off Highway 3 between noon and 1:00pm. The coordinates are posted if you've got a GPS and don't know where Copper Creek is.

Regards,
Pete

What a great weekend and what an amazing BBQ on Saturday night! Thanks to all who planned and helped execute this event - an outstanding effort!

Ribs, Sausage, Wings....and Ice Cream on top of a mountain in sub freezing temperatures...EXCELLENT!

Thanks to all the Group...Shawn (and his wife), Pete and his 'Mog Buddies, the Blairs, and all who made this event a very memorable run.

THANKS AGAIN TO ALL IT WAS A LOT OF FUN!

My thanks also to all those previously mentioned, a tremendous effort. It was a real pleasure to see so many members and our american friends out for this late season run. Thanks to all who helped with the various mechanical foibles including my own water pump failure.
Bill

My thanks to the Whipsaw committee and all those who volunteered to help out with the great BBQ spread on Saturday night. Without that effort we would have all been shivering in our tents.

A great event, thanks Pete, Kris, Shawn and Andy for organizing and your crew for putting it all together!

Dave

Hey All just wanted to thank everyone for a great weekend, yes cold, wet and even some fun in the sun. We had a great time. Dave, Pamela, Shawn and Dave special thanks for organizing so much with the food, getting us through the tough spots with minimal damage, lol one small wheel scrape for all those who are interested. If I forgot anyone my apologies there was so many people who helped out to make the event a great success. Our best John and Sandrine.

To all you photographers...

Lets see your shots...Most of us are always in the truck when an interesting shot occurs (like me being high centered)...lol...and it's always fun to see what others have taken.

Either send them to our resident photo archivist Bill, or post a link to where you store your shots.

Looking forward to some interesting pics. Here's my link to my photobucket site.

http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n167 ... 20Whipsaw/

guest password is - fluffysnow

Enjoy.

Thanks everyone for such a great event. Great dinner and campfire.

Leo and I had a great time.

I can't wait to see the pictures.

Later,
Don

Thanks for a great weekend and my first real trip out this year....
Cheers
Andrew

All three of us had a fantastic time this weekend. Thanks to everyone for a memorable weekend, and especially to the people that organized the BBQ. I've posted a few photos on our website in the 2008 - Ashnola Traverse / Whipsaw Trail gallery.

http://www.northwestoverlandsociety.org ... fault.aspx

A rough draft of a trip report is also up at

http://www.northwestoverlandsociety.org ... fault.aspx

Thanks again for having us. We'd love to host you guys down in Washington or Oregon for a run next summer.

Craig
Northwest Overland Society

Craig,

Great pic's and trip report. Glad to hear that you enjoyed the trip.

John
VA7FFR

wow, what a great 3 days,cant imagine not having done the ASHNOLA TRAVERSE, what a view from the top. , even the slash plies from the clear cut couldnt dim the views.
And a big 3 CHEERS to the GREAT TEAM, that fed and entertained us,.Sat evening. And yes JOHN the corn was good, .Snow on the roof top tent in early october was a hoot to wake up to.
So glad the old rover made the trip in one piece, almost rolled it from a stall and wet brakes, Had to kick start my heart to get it out of my throat. [lol]. but i survived it all, Wonderful to meet some new folks from THE USA. and a few more HAM,S as well, didnt hurt.
it was definately a HIGHLIGHT of my 7 years of ownership of the 1965 109. thanks for a great weekend.
all the best RICK MELLENGER