The Rover-Landers of BC

How about Whipsaw Watch :?:

How about Whipsaw wascal watch :) but seriously folks Whipsaw range watch, Whipsaw conservation, Whipsaw preservation, Whipsaw protection,

or maybe Whipshaw you weren't in the medow?
Andrew

or We'll Whale on Whipsaw Wilfull Wallowing

:wink:

Hey Paul how about Whipsaw Range Rovers or the Blair Whipsaw Project

I think most are pretty good. My favorites so far; Whipsaw Range Rovers, Blair Whipsaw Project :twisted: , and Whipsaw Watch. But I hope more ideas are brewing. :idea:

I really like the Whipsaw Range Rovers. This one tells it all, Whipsaw Trail, range land, and Rovers.

D

Yea.. I really like Whipsaw Range Rovers...anyone else :?:

It might be ok for someone driving a Range Rover, but I don't
so how about Whipsaw Defenders


Kris

Yup…Kris raises a good point…Whipsaw Disco??? yikes. Whipsaw Range Rovers is kind-a model specific.

I have to admit Kris has a point. So I think so far I like Whipsaw watch or Whipsaw range watch. Whipsaw rovers (another idea) sounds like a band of drunken irishmen ,somthing I'm familiar with.

I think whipsaw range rovers describes it well with a pun on a type of land rover it doesn't have to be taken as specific to a Range Rover?
I give it 4 thumbs up (somebody put your thumbs up )
Andrew

How about Whipsaw Lightweight,because most of the club won't even run the trail :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

later,

Karl

I like that

People at home could tune in to watch the Series of Whipsaw Lightweights

:lol:

Thats good Kris .It would be on the discovery channel and would be called the series of Whipsaw lightweights defending freelanding range rovers.

that's good
this way we got them all, no one can complain.

Kris

OK, Gentlemen,

We've got heavyweights in lighweights. Disco drivers Defending Series, Drunken Irish, and Roving Rangers...

Now we've covered it all, lets maybe move on to more important things to consider, like who all is volunteering to join Paul on the initial reccon run.

And more important, who's gonna give up a summer weekend or two to clean trail, fill in holes in the Wells Lake camp areas, pick up tons of trash, haul up and set up picnic tables, signs, outhouses, oh -- did I mention picking up trash?

I'm sure Paul would like to see this thread turn into a list of volunteers ready to help with the stewardship of Whipsaw Trail. So, can I assume that everyone who has posted so far is on board?

Dave

I am in and so is my brother.

Kris

I'm in.

Later,

Karl

And count me in as well.

Dave

I'm in

Count me in too....
AndyD

OH Ya Bra's, count me in :twisted: :twisted:

I am in. i am sure i can find some cans of chili left over from THE NOIRTH WEST CHALLENGE, and i would love to cook that up for all you hard workers. so count me in!!! i am so over my self with the name thing though!!!! all the best. rick.m

:shock: :shock: 8) To support the heavyweight lightweight theme I'm in and I'll try to drag along a few of our gang here on the island.
Cheers
Derek
"Ol' Blighty Forever"

:shock: :shock: 8) To support the heavyweight lightweight theme I'm in and I'll try to drag along a few of our gang here on the island.
Cheers
Derek
"Ol' Blighty Forever"

In
Andrew

Just recieved my member card in the mail today, count me in to.

Neil

that's a lot of volunteers


with this size group maybe some of us should do the clean up and some should look for the lost wagon trail that leads from Whipsaw to Hope.

:twisted: :twisted:

Kris

Are you talking about where we drive past the joining of the Hope Brigade trail to the main trail? I'd like to explore down that way as well. Maybe once we get the other one under control we'll have time for that...

Dave

not sure where it comes out but from what I have heard,
Whipsaw trail is part of what used to be a wagon trail that started in Princeton and came out somewhere in Hope and was used to bring mail from Princeton area to Lower mainland.

Anyone else know the story?

Kris

Hi Kris, Whipsaw creek trail covers an area that was traversed by the Hudson's Bay Company Fur Brigade Trail/Hope Pass Trail. I'm not able to recall all the details which I read up on once but the trail was established as a fixed route for the fur trade to transport furs to and from Yale which of course was the head of navigation on the Fraser. It was thought to be a short cut but the altitude and extreme winter conditions that existed well into late spring and early fall made the trip a hardship for those using it. The trail was abandoned after a short life and was only used occasionally by pack trains and cattlemen thereafter. The meadow area that exists when you drop off granite mountain with the small pond and cabin was apparently a pack train staging area for the HBC, hence the name Hudson's Bay Meadow. There is also a sign which is seriously shot up where the trail splits to go around Lodestone Lake that has a short history written on the back, hope it is still there. I know that horses seem to have access south and west of the HB meadow area aswell as a trail leading off towards the headwaters of whipsaw creek. I don't know if these trails connect but they appear to be unsuited to 4x4 travel. I once spoke with some hikers who had come up to granite mountain from the old Dewdney trail in Manning Park but once again I don't think this trail is passable in a Rover. But then again :twisted:

here is a link to a map of the hbc brigade trail it's just a drawing but it gives you a idea of where it was.[url]C:\Documents and Settings\default\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\U801YQIW\bciw2hopeprincetonmap[1].jpg[/url]

Thanks guys,
this sounds really interesting and it might be worth looking into since we will be in the area.

Kris

HEY ITS ALIVE!!!!

This thread is so busy that its logo is now pulsating like a heartbeat. Never had that before.

When Pamela and I were up the Sowaqua Creek FSR last fall, we crossed, according to the map, the Hope Brigade Trail. We actually tried to head up it out of Hope, where it originates as Peers Creek Road. We found that the road had fallen away where it crosses a sandy alluvial fan. Several trucks working together could re-open this in a couple of hours, but we didn't feel comfortable doing it that day by ourselves. (I believe Mr. Peers was one of the founders of Hope BC.)

At any rate, by going back out and up Sowaqua, we were able to view the trail as it appeared on the other side of the creek valley. It looks traversable and would be worth a try when the snow melts.

Dave

To the Whipsaw Lightweights Defending Freelanding Rangrovers on the eve of Discovering the true meaning of off roading.

To arrive at desired destination & return home in one piece by treading lightly while your are at it.. :lol:

S

shawn doherty wrote:here is a link to a map of the hbc brigade trail it's just a drawing but it gives you a idea of where it was.[url]C:\Documents and Settings\default\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\U801YQIW\bciw2hopeprincetonmap[1].jpg[/url]

Shawn, your link seems to be on your "C" drive.

Hey it’s good to see such interest in the Whipsaw project, and all those who plan to join in, nice start, thanks.

Back to the name game for a sec…is it really all that important at this stage… no…however it has obviously generated a lot of interest in the project as a whole.
I came up with Whipsaw Watch while thinking of “99 Watchâ€

Thanks Greg. Here is another try. The map shows four trails into the area HBC Brigade trail ,Whatcom trail Dewdney trail and the hope pass trail
http://www.michaelkluckner.com/bciw2hopeprinceton.html